between the fiscal cliff, between the election of speaker boehner. i think people are realizing that the american people are a little trired of drama. but that does not mean that republicans are not committed to addressing the spending policies, addressing the holistic problem. we can't just do it in pieces. at some point the budge it has tot to be balanced as we all balance our budgets at home. but i do think in politics things come in a pendulum. we've had a pendulum of instability, arguing, fighting. i think we'll see it come back to the middle sooner rather than later. >> you think there will be no drama with the debt ceiling? >> oh, absolutely. we should have a little drama. we didn't get into this mess simply by spending our way into it. i think we have to look at it in a wholistic way, in terms of revenues, in terms of spending cuts. but, you know, the republicans did the right thing in terms of making sure that the country doesn't default on its obligation. but we still have a sequester coming up. i mean, that is spending cuts across the boar